GadgetGuy survives on coffee, not just good, strong, black Espresso
but milky flat whites, Macchiato and Latte lovers as well. The Jura E8 2019 got
the thumbs up for ‘bitching’ coffee.
If you have around $2K to spend, then the Jura E8 2019 is the machine to beat. And it is our pleasure to tell you why! Note that the older E8 is still on sale, but it is absolutely worth the extra dollars to get the 2019 features (comparison here).
We recently reviewed the Jura ENA 8, and it scored 3.5-out-of-5. To be fair, this is an excellent home machine packed with Jura smarts and quality build, but it left us a little wanting. At $1,899 compared to the Jura E8 2019 at $2,099 (and the $2,650 Jura S8 – 4.4-out-of-5 and reviewed last year here) our review team simply could not give it the tick.
It is amazing how (in comparison to the stylish ENA 8) having
15 (10) coffee programs including hot milk (not just milk foam) and more granular
control of the grind and strength made appreciably better coffee.
Now to be fair to the ENA 8, most users will be happy with
Espresso and Cappuccino, and it does those very well. But in an office
environment, you need many more programs.
The E8 is Jura’s ultimate best seller in terms of price and
features. It can automatically make almost all coffee types and is fast enough
to satisfy a big Italian family or a coffee-addicted office.
On that point Jura’s 2019 Australian coffee study reveals
28% consume 3+ cups at home per day (33/24% male/female)
65% have a coffee machine at home (48/20% pod/automatic
Jura machine owners are likely to drink more
coffee at home
17% spend >$20 per work week on buying coffee (50/50% male/female)
Jura home machine owners buy more coffee when outside home – to feed the fix
George Liakatos, JURA Australia’s General Manager, says, “We are encouraging Australians to make the switch from pods to beans, whether it’s via a JURA coffee machine or another brand. This is something we are truly passionate about.”
GadgetGuy has tested dozens of coffee machines, and one
thing is true – pods/evil, real coffee beans/good.
It is as simple as lifting it out of the box, adding beans, water
and milk and selecting the coffee type. You can visit the website for instructional
It has a segment of water testing – that is simple with a disposable paper Aquadur strip (supplied). If your water supply is ‘wrong’, e.g. too hard, chlorine, calcium, sodium, dissolved solids or pH value, it will make the coffee taste ‘off’.
The perceived acidity of coffee corresponds to the amount of
acid extracted from the coffee bean, minus the amount of alkalinity from the
water. If you get the water right, it makes the bean’s job easier.
Fortunately, in most Australian capital cities, the water quality
is fine. But you may need a water filter or acid/alkalinity tablets (the unit
can use CLARIS Smart disposable filters and tablets) or some form of water pre-treatment
to get good coffee – don’t blame the machine.
For the techie types, there is new research from the Coffee
Science Education Centre and the University of New South Wales on how to
engineer Sydney water to get the most out of a cup of coffee here.
Coffee beans are next.
A cheap bean makes a poor cup of coffee. It is rare to find
the best bean at a supermarket where the price per kg is the focus. Decent
coffee beans start at $40 per kg, and you may easily spend much more to get just
what you like. If your family drinks a mix of black and milk coffees, then you
need to find an acceptable compromise.
Jura has Impressa – a ‘medium’ blend of 70% Arabica and 30%
Robusta beans from Mexico, Brazil and Uganda, and it is a good start at $47.60
Or do the rounds of your favourite baristas and ask what coffee beans they use. If you like it buy some and experiment but go for one that all the users – black or white – will love. Or use the two-scoop bypass if you need a stronger bean.
Remember that 1kg of beans can make between 65 and 200 cups of
coffee depending on the strength (from 5-16g per cup). In dollar terms, $50 per
kg means from 25-80 cents a cup (plus milk).
Why are beans best?
Pods are pathetic – yes, really. Inside that aluminium and
plastic pod is 5-7g of something. That is coffee, caffeine, carbs, fat, sodium,
flavourings, and ‘extenders’. Generic pods cost from 33-70 cents each, so that
is from $66 to a massive $140 per kg. No wonder Nespresso can afford George Clooney’s
Pods have one advantage – you can buy a variety to suit different
coffee drinkers including faux coffee drinkers that want a flavoured hazelnut, Cream
Most important – is the coffee as good as a bought one?
Out-of-the-box the Jura E8 2019 produces a rich, satisfying Espresso at approx. 90°. It also produces a proper milk/foam/coffee balance for a flat white or Cappuccino. It can make:
2 x Ristretto
2 x Espresso
2 x Coffee
Portion of milk
Hot water for green tea
Also, you can vary coffee strength (8 levels), water levels
(for cup size), and delivery temperatures (two levels). You cannot change the milk
Warm-up time is quick although we left it on all day. Recovery
time between cups is fast – 10-20 seconds.
We played with all settings and frankly, our advice is to leave
them alone. This is important and reflects Jura’s enormous coffee expertise and
the accuracy of the 15 programs and pre-sets.
The display is intuitive – all staff could able to make a
coffee without training.
Green tea and decaf coffee
There is a setting for hot water (great for hot chocolate – just add hot milk) and hot water for Green tea (reduces temperature to 80°).
There is a two-scoop ‘doser’ bypass chute for ground or decaf
At home, the standard glass .5L milk canister and plastic tube
is fine for a couple of cups. The glass canister can then be refilled and stored
in the fridge.
After using it for a while and we began to see milk coffee drinkers ‘drift’ away, and we suspect that if we had tested the 1.1L Cool Control Wireless Milk Cooler (about $250) that would have stopped the defection.
You see, most milk coffee is between 180-340ml (less 90ml
coffee) and quickly exhausts the glass canister capacity. Official cup capacity
(if you can call them that and they don’t need to be filled) are Espresso/single
shot (100ml), small (280ml), medium/regular/double shot (400ml) and large/triple
shot (500ml). These roughly equate to 8, 12, and 16-ounce standard cups.
But a second issue emerged. Flat white coffee drinkers
wanted it hotter than the 45-50° milk portion it produces. It seems that most baristas
aim for 55-65°. We found the comment usually from the first milk coffee drinker
(the second cup is a little hotter) and if the cup is cold to touch (and it is
in August) – so, warm the cup.
Now here is the real issue – the E8 2019 can provide both
heated milk as a portion and frothed milk – something the ENA 8 could not (it allowed
milk to settle out of the foam). But if you want hotter milk (adjustable), then
there are two options.
First, make an Espresso on the highest temperature and then sparingly add heated milk from the milk dispenser. Second, buy the Z6 at $2,990 with an integrated milk system and ten programmable temperature levels.
The casing is piano black ABS – it is a fingerprint magnet. There are some faux metal parts. It looks well-made and 28.0 x 34.6 x 44.4 cm x 9.8kg is quite stable and robust.
The water tank holds 1.9L (the ENA 8 is half that) and the coffee bean container 280g (to keep beans fresh).
It uses a single aluminium Thermo block boiler, and that
means one brew at a time. More expensive units have two boilers for almost continuous
use and of course, milk temperature streamer control.
We love the 15-bar PEP (Pulse Extraction Process) that applies pulsing pressure through the coffee grinds. It makes Espresso especially good or as one staff member said “Bitching good coffee”.
Power-wise it consumes 1450W in use (it defaults to stay on
to keep the thermo block quick delivery boiler ready). In use that is 75 cents
an hour at peak rates. You can set it to switch off automatically if not used
for 15 or 30 minutes or in increments from 1-9 hours.
The harder the water and the more calcium in it means the
more frequently you need to descale and run the automatic cleaning programs. When
you test the water hardness, the result determines the program time between
descaling. Most maintenance messages are time-related. Rinsing means using the machines
hot water and cleaning means using a cleaning tablet to clean and sanitise.
Rinse the machine
Rinse the fine foam frother
Clean the fine foam frother
Change the water filter
Clean the machine (or change the coffee grounds
Descaling the machine (a CLARIS Smart filter
negates that need)
Over a four week use, we did not find the cleaning regimen onerous, but we learnt the hard way that the milk system needs proper cleaning and correct temperature storage.
GadgetGuy’s take – Jura E8 2019 is as good as a bought one although it makes us want even more
We realise now that the ENA 8 2019, while suitable for most
as a home or small office system has its limits. That is more of a revelation
to us as we explore more coffee machines.
And we thought the S8 is pretty good (and it incrementally is), but if you are a dedicated milk coffee drinker, you are going to need to look at the Z-series from $2,990 to $4,490 for programmable milk/foam temperatures.
We think it is a perfect home system for casual coffee drinkers who don’t pretend to be coffee snobs.
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Reader Rating0 Votes
PEP makes the best Espresso
Can make very strong coffee (16g grind)
15 programs and lots of flexibility
A milk frother system is not as good as a milk steamer system
Maximum cup height 114mm a bit tight for tall mugs